By Anya Schiffrin
Priscilla Gilman is the daughter of New York literary agent Lynn Nesbit and powerhouse drama critic Richard Gilman. An author and former English literature professor, her most recent book is a loving tribute to her father, set against the backdrop of the Upper West Side in the 1970s.
Through a dizzying array of namechecks of famous writers, Gilman makes clear what literary giants her parents were. Her mother’s clients included Anne Rice, Felix Rohatyn, Nobel laureate Amartya Sen, Joan Didion, Jimmy Carter, Gay Talese and Robert Caro. Among the family’s neighbors in their rent-controlled apartment building at 333 Central Park West were New York Times film critic Pauline Kael, New Yorker writer Jane Kramer, left-wing journalist Alexander Cockburn and publishing world giants Dick and Jeannette Seaver.
The idyllic literary life became more complicated after her parents’ split in 1980 in part because Gilman’s mother had tired of her father’s sexual proclivities (more on this in The Critic’s Daughter). Priscilla Gilman, 10 at the time, and her sister were caught in the middle, but Gilman’s book is the portrait of a devoted daughter, loyal to her father even as she struggled with the breakup of their family. Eventually, Richard Gilman found happiness with a Japanese literature scholar. He died at the age of 83 in Kusatsu, Japan.
While her father is the main character, Gilman has made the Upper West Side very much a part of the story. She describes the neighborhood as “gritty.” In the years she lived there, the 1970s, the streets were littered, drug deals operated openly on brownstone stoops, “muggings were frequent and we never took the subway (always the bus).” But rents were cheap for rambling apartments, which attracted book publishers and writers, as well as critics, academics and journalists.
Gilman, who now lives in Washington Heights, spoke with the Rag by phone and email about her Upper West Side memories. This is an edited version of those conversations.
WSR: What was it like to grow up on the Upper West Side? You are from the era I grew up in, of shabby streets and literary people.
Gilman: We initially lived on 93rd and Central Park West, 333 CPW. My parents moved there when I was about five months old and they found out that they were having another baby; they’d been renting on Charlton Street [in the Village].
333 Central Park West was a rent-controlled haven for artistic and intellectual people. It was a grand building that had fallen into disrepair, and none of us renovated the apartments, as it would have been money thrown away. My bedroom fronted Central Park! When I was eight, we moved to 44 W 77th Street. My father eventually settled at 329 West 108th Street.
In your book you mention seeing the kids’ theater company, the Paper Bag players, and weekend activities with your dad. I remember doing the same things with mine. Where did you like to go as a child?
Riverside and Central Parks, the American Museum of Natural History, the NY City Ballet at Lincoln Center, revival movie theaters like the Thalia and the Regency, the Little Orchestra Society concerts, Paper Bag Players, and Mummenschanz [a Swiss mime theatre troupe].
Do you remember and/or mourn any of the old bakeries or restaurants or shops?
Grossinger’s Grossinger’s Grossinger’s. That yellow awning. “Ice Cream Cakes Our Specialty.” The praline ice cream cake was the special birthday treat we and all our friends adored. But they also had incredible walnut brownies, black and white cookies, large cookies with frosting in the shape of dogs, dolls, etc.
Miss Grimble’s and their chocolate cheesecakes in flower pots! The Green Noodle and their quiche Lorraine with hard-boiled eggs baked into it, not to mention their homemade tortellini.
Anita’s Chili Parlor and their bowls of chili topped with sour cream, cheese, and scallions. Indian Oven’s chicken tandoori and naan. The Haagen Dazs on Columbus and 75th was an almost nightly destination. We also loved cookies from David’s Cookies or Mrs. Fields. Big Nick’s was where I’d get pizza during a rehearsal break at Collegiate School or if I had a break between teaching aerobics classes at Body Design by Gilda on West 70th.
Clothing stores: I bought party dresses and outfits at Alice Underground (fabulous vintage strapless dresses and overcoats), Betsy Johnson, and Liana, which I think is still there! I loved the women who ran it and beautiful Liana, the store’s namesake, was just a little older than I. I never shopped at Charivari myself but the Collegiate boys in my vocal jazz ensemble sure did. Morris Brothers for jeans and camp supplies – sleeping bags, tarps etc. I bought gifts at The Last Wound-Up and Mythology. Finally, supermarkets. We shopped at Food City when we lived on 93rd (I think it just went under a few years ago) and Pioneer when we lived on 77th – and it is hanging on in all its grungy glory!
My memory of being a teenager in NYC in the 70s was that we were pretty feral. Many parents went away for the weekend and we hung out in empty apartments and did more or less as we pleased. Schools were pretty hands off as well. Thoughts?
Absolutely. We were taking drinks from our parents’ liquor cabinets, partying in empty apartments, going to restaurants on Columbus Avenue and ordering daquiris and margaritas.
Now you are in Washington Heights. How does that compare to the UWS?
My new neighborhood feels like the old UWS in many ways – diverse, artsy, affordable, vibrant, homey. My building is full of writers and actors and therapists and professors. We don’t have the restaurants or the sheer number of stores that the UWS of my childhood had, though. Fort Tryon Park is glorious but it will never be Central Park or Riverside Park to me.
What were your favorite New York bookshops?
Eyore’s Books for Children, Shakespeare & Co, Endicott on Columbus, and, today, the Barnes & Noble on 82nd and Broadway. It killed Shakespeare but stayed and did a good job of being a bookstore for the neighborhood.
For an interesting insider’s perspective on rent-controlled apartments:
“333 Central Park West was a rent-controlled haven for artistic and intellectual people. It was a grand building that had fallen into disrepair, and none of us renovated the apartments, as it would have been money thrown away.”
No renovations. Money thrown away. Decay. Deterioration. Blight in a bankrupt city.
I grew up on the UWS of the late 59’s and 60’s. We lived on RSD, across the street from Mrs. Maisel’s building. I played in Riverside Park, learned how to ride a bike there and went “ down below” for picnics and The New York Times on Sundays. I remember the Columbia clothing store on Broadway for young men going away to college in the big city, Mama Joy’s on Broadway, of course Tom’s, later to be immortalized by Seinfeld, The West End Cafe for pastrami and corned beef sandwiches, cool jazz, and a beatnik atmosphere. Party Cake for yummy cookies and great sliced rye bread. We shopped at Daitch Shopwell ( sp?) Sloane’s later on and Pioneer. My mother spent hours grocery shopping! My stop on the subway was west 110th, but we often took the bus too because it was a lovely ride from downtown to Riverside Drive. What lovely memories!
Down below! Haven’t heard that phrase in ages. That’s how we referred to it in my family, too.
People could afford it. That’s the point. Now, NYC is for the rich and entitled.
Re: “Now, NYC is for the rich and entitled.”
Gosh, we know we’re neither rich nor “entitled”, just two retired NYC employees who love this city and do NOT feel left-out.:
1. Oh, sure, we do NOT patronize over-priced restaurants, but DO find excellent substitutes with reasonable prices and great food;
2. We have memberships in some of its great museums and go there often;
3. We take advantage of both Central Park and Riverside Park; and
4. as advanced-amateur photographers we love neighborhoods like Chelsea, the Lower East Side, and others with great photo-ops.
My great-grandparents paid $10/month for a shotgun shack without electricity or plumbing. But they could ‘afford’ it.
Anyway, I just won $20 because someone replied with the cliché ‘entitled’. Thanks!
I grew up in the Apthorp and now, through a series of quizzical events, am back there again. I too miss Gitlitz, Miss Grimble, Mythology, Charivari. The neighborhood was so rich in character then. My father was Joseph Heller (Catch-22) and in those days, a shrimp cocktail at Tony’s Italian Kitchen was a real thrill. The neighborhood is so much drearier now, homogenized. I definitely think where you’re living now is far more interesting.
Ecall: Columbus Bakery in thec80s 90s years not streets the gingerman near Li County car, O’Neal at 73rd and co l umbus huge Chinese restaurant on BWAY where Ollie’s is now.
The Library b as r and restaurant. The first Starbucks in NUC at 86 / BWAY, THE THE ABC studio for ALL MY CHILDREN, PIONEER SUOER isn’t Grundgy anymore…several movie theaters up and down Broadway incl the NEW YORKER..
the New Yorker theater- I saw many movies there- yes! and I taught a bunch of ABC anchors, reporters, and All My Children actors at Body Design By Gilda.
Erica! I love this! I’m the author of The Critic’s Daughter and Tony’s Italian Kitchen appears majorly in it! Thank you so much for your kind words. In solidarity!
I grew up on 87th & WEA and still believe that Lichtman’s bakery on 86th & Amsterdam was the best smelling place on earth! Ate at Marvin Gardens for bdays, Shopped at PS I LOVE YOU and Liberty House for presents.
Lichtman’s RIP
Chocolate Babka to die for.
PS I LOVE YOU! Oh my goodness- had forgotten that one! 🙂 Liberty House was amazing.
I lived on the UWS from 1993 until 2020. I loved Liberty House. I remember when there were three locations – one in the upper 80s, one on 91st, and one (the last one to close) on Broadway and 112th.
Looking forward to reading this and wow, what memories. I absolutely remember being taken to Paper Bag Players and Mumenschanz with my mom and going to Miss Grimbles, Grossingers, The Grab Bag and yes, Betsy Johnson. I, like the author, now live uptown (Spuyten Duyvil) and every day I hear about more artists/creatives/professionals moving up to Washington Heights, Inwood and Spuyten Duyvil. It feels like the old UWS. And, as she said, we don’t have Riverside Park or CP, but, at least, it’s affordable (for now…)
Janice- agreed on all counts! Thanks so much for sharing. 🙂
I GREW UP ON THE UWS – ON WEST 79TH STREET BETWEEN WEA AND R’SIDE, IN THE 50s. I WENT TO THE OLD P.S. 9, ON WEA AND 82nd STREET, AND THE OLD H.S. OF MUSIC AND ART WHEN IT WAS ON CONVENT AVE and 135th STREET. THE M5 BUS WAS MY FAVORITE, AND STILL IS (IF ONLY IT WOULD COME MORE OFTEN). WE HAD THE BEST BUS DRIVER WHO WATCHED FOR ALL OF US, ON THE WAY TO M&A. MY FAVORITE BAKERY WAS BABKA – WITH ITS FABULOUS PASTRIES. REAL CHOCOLATE MARZIPAN AND CHOCOLATE SWIRLED PEAKS WERE MY FAVORITE. MY BROTHER LOVED THE CHOCOLATE CREAM PEAKS, COVERED IN DARK CHOCOLATE. MY FATHER LOVED THE NAPOLEONS , WITH REAL CUSTARD FILLING AND WHITE ICING, DECORATED WITH THREADS OF CHOCOLATE. MY GRANDMOTHER LOVED THE STRAWBERRY TARTS FILLED WITH CUSTARD. AND THEY HAD THE MOST DELICIOUS PETIT FOURS – WHICH CAN NEVER BE FOUND IN A BAKERY ANYMORE. ZABAR’S WAS A SMALL GROCERY STORE WITH A DELI COUNTER ON ONE SIDE. MY FAVORITE STORE WAS WOOLWORTH’S WHICH TOOK UP HALF OF THE BLOCK ON THE EAST SIDE of B’WAY FROM 79th-80th st. IT WAS GREAT FOR CHRISTMAS SHOPPING 🙂
N. Y.. school of music above Woolworths. Out of work musicians rented small rooms and gave instrument and voice lessons. I took saxophone lessons there until neighbors started slipping notes under my Apt.door (W 76th. St) asking me not to practice in the evening.. lots of broken auto windows and car alarms in the middle of the night.
Some things do change for the better.
Woolworth’s was paradise!
I love your memories- thanks for sharing! Woolworth’s was a favorite of ours too and appears in my book The Critic’s Daughter-we buy a goldfish there!
I cannot wait to get my paws on your book. You’re already unearthing so many memories. We also got goldfish (and turtles) from Woolworth’s. They came in plastic bags and in Chinese food containers. The first time we brought the fish home, the bag split open suddenly in the living room and a fish went swimming underneath our couch, never to be seen again.
YES! We carried the fish home in a plastic bag!
Congratulations on the book. I can still remember Tony’s so vividly: the lurid murals of Mt. Vesuvius, our more than slightly sychophantic waiter, Jerry, and the bartender Flavio. We were there every Sunday night without fail. My memoir “Yossarian Slept Here” has a terrific photo of Tony’s. If only the place was still there…
Now that boring sports bar is where Tony’s used to be. I remember when they found a cut up body wrapped in paper in front. I remember there was a classic headline in the Post.
My dad went to Music and Art on 135, too. He was maybe 10 years before you. My son ended up going to HSMSE which is there now. And when my dad was doing backer’s auditions for his show, I would hang out at the Apthorp staring out the window hoping to go across the street to Woolworth’s. Which was a treat for me. To be with my dad AND to sucker him into getting me something for making me wait across the street while he worked on a Saturday. I grew up in the village but loved coming up here because of the space. I’m still on Broadway and still love it.
Sigh. These are my very memories of the Upper West Side, where my hubs and I moved in 1975. Such wonderful stores and restaurants! We particularly remember Dobson’s for brunch, the Cherry Restaurant for breakfast and weekday suppers, Al Buon Gusto for affordable Italian grub, and the pre-inflationary Chinese meals at Silk Road Palace–which poured unlimited white wine (vintage Tuesday) and lasted a lot longer than some other places. Now I’m in exile in Riverdale where our favorite local eatery has just bitten the dust. Nothing lasts except memories!
Silk Road! Had almost forgotten! ❤️
“… Preserve your memories, they’re all that’s left you.” ~ Paul Simon
Ah, yes the good ol’ Cherry 🍒 restaurant. 2 pork chops dinner only $2.99. 😋 The best!
my dad and sister loved that pork chops dinner!
Cherry Restaurant was a favorite of ours too! I describe going there w my dad and sister in my book. Dobson’s was also fantastic- I went to several birthday dinners there for my friends.
Blessed to have lived (and still do) practically on the corner of 76 right between Dobsons and The Cherry dinner. The only Japanese run diner in the city. Cheese burgers or chicken tonkatsu. With a branch of Grossinger’s (Magyar ukrasda) in between. We didn’t know how good it was despite the break-ins,muggings and grime Oh yes ,viva Anita’s. Chili Parlor !
WOW! Lucky you! Anita’s Chili Parlor really was the best. 🙂
I met my wife there. Labor Day 1979.
I remember DDL Foodshow on Columbus. Walking into that place was magical because of the polished brass, the marble, the wonderful food. I can never find a photo of it.
I was living down in the village but spending Saturday’s on the Upper West Side with my dad around 1975-1976. When I moved up to the UES (where I never felt like I belonged) I started working retail on Columbus when I was 18. Henry Lehr, Charivari Workshop/72nd Forza, Acrobat, Montmatre. I loved DDL, Design Observations, Parachute, Ylang, Ylang, The Last Wound Up…so much creativity.
And let us not forget Gitlitz, Tip Top, Starks, and so many more.
On the UES. I went to Steiner (took the 104 and then the crosstown at 79th street) and we would go to Stark’s after school all the time. Tip Top was the greatest place: a trust authentic Hungarian diner in the East 70s. Since I’m Hungarian, we frequented it whenever we were in the neighb. And Rigo’s, a fantastic, truly Hungarian pastry shop. I’m from 109th and RSD.
I don’t know if this is the same location, but there are almost 200 photos of the Dino DeLaurentis Foodshow on Getty Images. You don’t need a subscription to view them. : )
https://www.gettyimages.ie/photos/ddl-foodshow?assettype=image&sort=mostpopular&phrase=ddl%20foodshow&license=rf%2Crm
My family and I moved to a Mitchell Lama co-op on Columbus Ave (between 93rd and 94th) in 1963. Ms. Gilman’s take on the Upper West Side is quite different from mine despite the fact that we lived only a block from each other. Of course there was crime but its effects on me were minimal. I took the subway to CCNY daily and never felt fear. The same can be said for both of my parents who took the subway daily to their jobs. I was aware of her building on CPW and though I never was in it I knew it to be a relatively luxurious building. I only knew one person who was mugged on the Upper West Side. Ms. Gilman went to Collegiate. I went to public schools and received a free college degree at City College. My older sister never shopped at the stores mentioned in the article – Macy’s or Gimbel’s was good enough. My Upper West side wasn’t gritty. It was great. (and shopped at the truly grimy Pioneer at 93rd and Columbus)
Gritty Can Be Great! 🙂 I didn’t go to Collegiate- just performed in plays there. City College is an incredible school. I started taking the subway around age 11, but not as a tiny girl. I LOVED Macy’s and Gimbels too!
I had an aunt that worked in Macy’s for 50 YEARS, then retired, moved to Florida, and worked in a dept. store. Go figure!
Thanks to all who remembered Miss Grimble’s and the other wonderful businesses that were instrumental in the rennaissance of the UWS. Some of my fondest memories were made there…then!
Deborah, wasn’t it the best?! I describe my grandmother going there for special treats for us in my book. The chocolate cheesecake in mini flower pots was to die for!
Not only is Priscilla a brilliant writer from a family of distinguished artists, but she is a compassionate and courageous human being.
Barbara! So touched! THANK YOU! xx
Does Washington Heights 2023 have anything like Zabar’s 1977?
Not really! Frank’s Market is pretty darn good but overpriced and no Zabar’s. What could be? 🙂
In 2023, Zabar’s has plenty of real competition. That’s largely because it’s gone downhill since M. Klein (the man who built it) sold his share back to the Zabar family in 1996. Also to a certain extent online shopping changed things. Those 2 reasons are why I specified 1977. But yes, I didn’t expect that Washington Heights has something like Zabar’s 2023.
It’s still an excellent store, if not what it was even 10 years ago.
Zabar’s is still and always will be irreplaceable
It’ was replaced over the last 10 years or so by “Zabar’s”.
It was a choice, since Klein’s reign supreme ended more than 25 years ago.
I lived at 78th and Columbus for several years as a child in the 70s. FDNY seemed very present, responding to fires in derelict brownstones. Or maybe just once — but it was epic! The hexagonal tiles around the Museum of Natural History also stand out to me. I also saw Mummenschanz. They came back to NYC maybe five years ago and I saw them perform at a very nice auditorium at John Jay College. Kids still absolutely love it. Anyway, the movie “The Goodbye Girl” shows those streets as they were at the time. Thank you for your book! I am reading it and it is so good.
OMG Mummenschanz!!! 😍
Anna! I’m touched and grateful. Thank you so much! I wish I’d seen Mummenschanz when they returned. YES to those hexagonal tiles! 😉 And thanks for reminding me about The Goodbye Girl, which I must watch w my boys!
Grossingers – they were the best. And, I’ve yet to find a vintage store that makes my heart sing like Alice Underground. By day I managed a magazine store next to Burger Joint and once off duty would cross the Street to Shelter for dinner with what seemed like most of West End Avenue. I return occasionally, it’s okay…I miss the Winifred’s Frocks sign alot
Speaking of Alice Underground, the large hand-painted purple wooden sign for it showed up in Housing Works last June. The young staff there probably had no idea what a historic piece they were selling. I wish it could have ended up in the New York Historical Society collection.
Right?! I wish I could wear a dress from Alice Underground while eating a piece of Grossinger’s praline ice cream cake for my next birthday! I wonder if I ever met you at that magazine store?!
It’s entirely possible that we did meet. I remember your father coming in for foreign theater magazines. Other than magazines from everywhere, we sold greeting cards made by UWS artists. I also sold tons of plain old candy to nourish the never ending flow of Collegiate boys. I’m so looking forward to reading the book. I’ve been enjoying your work for a long time.
This comment from you made my day. Michael, I’m so touched and delighted we’ve connected!
And you just made mine. Thank you, Priscilla. So, I had my store from ’81 to ’84 – I’m guessing you were a little young to be a habituee, but I wonder if you may have performed in any Collegiate plays around then…Terkel’s “Working” had lots of Brierley and Nightingale ingenues…Maybe I caught you on stage ☺️
I knew the older girls in Working! I started acting at Collegiate in 86. Just missed you!
I knew some of them too and of course the boys! What an incredible theatrical experience the old Bronfman was for kids to have as a training/playground. I saw kids on that stage
A friend from HCHS lived in your building….I was amazed by the dumb waiter in her kitchen! Rusksay’s an incredible restaurant on Columbus and 75th run by Damian and
John and Pandemonium was a super fun place to shop! After 47 yrs on 69 street in my Barefoot in the Park apt I have no regrets in leaving a very different neighborhood!
I am all for nostalgia, but the 1970’s were a desperate time for New York City. The City almost went bankrupt in the fiscal crisis of the mid-1970’s. Services were cut back and the city was a mess. It is possible that forty years from now someone who is now a child will remember with great fondness the year 2020. “We all wore masks and got vaccinated. At night we would bang on pots and pans to salute hospital workers. There was great unity”.
Haha, I remember huddling in the kitchen, shared with four other student roommates, in 1975 listening to WINS giving the blow by blow of the City’s bankruptcy. Nothing like having two sets of books, amirite?
While I didn’t grow up on the UWS, I did move there in 1976 – with no less than 3 roommates – to the same 3-bedroom West 89th St brownstone apartment I live in today, between CPW and Columbus (worryingly above the then-accepted border for “safe blocks” at 86th Street.) One of my fondest memories is of one of the first high-end delis I ever saw named MJ GOODIES, which was at the SW corner of 89/Col. They had delicious breaded chicken cutlets sold by the pound, and my go-to treat, something called a BLONDIE. Heaven in my hand. And across the street on the SE corner, before Goddard was built, sat an empty lot enclosed by the ubiquitous “wall of old doors.” Marsha Mason moved on after GOODBYE GIRL to star in ONLY WHEN I LAUGH, and her character was mugged while walking by that empty lot with the wall of doors, right there on the corner nearest my apt. My mother was, and still is, horrified that THIS was my neighborhood! Ha ha… it’s gotten better, Mom.
I also miss MAXILLA AND MANDIBLE, that quirky half-wide storefront on Columbus between 81st & 82nd Streets. I bought many a weird gift for friends and family there.
YES!!!!
What was the best thing you bought at Alice’s Underground?
For me, it’s an almost pristine Burberry Trench Coat, in a Olive Green.
I still have that coat and wear it proudly.
I still have a vintage blush-colored silk and lace bed jacket I bought there (does anyone else remember when vintage silk bed jackets were THE thing to wear with jeans?)
I sadly don’t have any of them anymore. A bunch of vintage strapless dresses. They also sold fabulous lip gloss!
Thors west side memories are in my book”breaking eggs in New York City, the story of Grossingers bakery and the family that built it” by Herb GROSINGER . Published by Xlibis and also on Amazon 4.8 stats out of 5
OH MY GOSH! Mr Grosinger himself is in this chat! Sir, you are a legend and I am going to buy your book right now!
I remember the shrimp balls at Eastern Gardens Chinese restaurant (Broadway in the 90’s I think) in the ’60’s. V&T’s Italian/pizza is still there near Columbia and Art Garfunkel supposedly hires a cab to shuffle him over a pie to the UES. Not sure which flavor he gets-maybe he can chime in….
Eastern Gardens was on the 2nd floor bet 99th & 100th, the Metro (then Midtown) Theater block, loved it
I grew up on 93rd and Amsterdam. I had a babysitter named Catalina who also worked for a family at 333 CPW with the name Gilman. I know eventually Catalina bought a studio in the building. Curious if this is the same Gilman family? I always wonder about Catalina.
Did you know the Weinbergers who lived in that building? (333 CPW)
LISA! That was us! Catalina was a legend. I wonder about her too. We moved out in 78 and she must have bought the studio after that. She slept over in a loft bed in my father’s office (the maid’s room) sometimes. Let me know if you find out anything! I wonder if we met as little girls?
Let’s not forget Royal Bakery, Schwartz’s Chocolates (making chocolates in the back room), All State Cafe, Shopwell on Columbus, Gristedes, Yum Yum Ice Cream, Needle Park, Hookers behind the Natural History Museum, Nanny Rose, Last Wound Up…
Nanny Rose!
yes, yes Nanny Rose..I still dream of the peanut curry dressing. Also Penny Whistle with the “Pustefix” bubble blowing bear !! And Museum Cafe with their Warm Grecian Salad…
Still remember not being allowed to walk near “Needle Park” (every time I walk near it now)
55 years and counting . . . On the same block, in the same apartment. Woolworths; Guys and Dolls pool hall; 15 of us playing round-up in the Museum of Natural History (eventually became security vs 15 of us); Amsterdam Billiards; Amsterdam’s; Ruelles; Quarter Moon Saloon; Baronetts; Food City; sneaking into Lowes in 83rd; the mean matron at Lowes; etc
Was Ruelles a two floor restaurant decorated like a boudoir or parlor from 1900? I remember a restaurant with lots of wood and flowers and lace, very feminine and lavish, that served fancy desserts. I’ve been trying to remember the name for years.
yes, two tier restaurant on the NE corner of 75th and Columbus Ave.
The mean matron at Lowes!! And sneaking into R rated movies as adolescents. Plus the wafting pot smoke. Ruelles- that is a name I haven’t thought of in years!
You didn’t have to sneak in. You just went in. Movies just opened first in NY & LA. The theaters were all on the UES in the 50’s & 60’s for first run. There were incredible lines. I went to the midnight screening of “Nashville.” It was either at the Baronet or Coronet. It was 3 hours long. Couldn’t get into the earlier one. The midnight was sold out too.
Louis Lichtman Bakery and Barney Greengrass at Amsterdam an 86th, weekend brunch at Chun Ch Fu and my beloved All State Cafe on 72nd (where people who never ate vegetables ate them and liked them) and where my daughter carved her nickname into all the table tops.
Does anyone else remember a sort of 5 & 10 store with everything from sewing needles to toys to stationary to cleaning supplies on Columbus between 75th and 74th, around where Paper Source is now? It looked like a store from a much older era. All the merchandise was on brown wood shelves against the walls and tables out in the center. I loved browsing in it when I was a kid – you never knew what you’d find. I think it closed around 1976
It was one of the oldest Woolworths. John’s Bargin Store was on the corner of 74th and was replaced by Cheese and Things, one of the first signs of gentrification. And no one has mentioned O’Neils the prototype of the “fernbar”.
John’s bargain store?
Yes I remember that store. Husband and wife ran the place.
Thanks, Carol.
Do you happen to remember the name?
What was the name of the Bowling Alleys near the Beacon?
How about Cafe Eclairs on 72nd Street between Columbus and Amsterdam. Loved that place. Also Cafe Lafortuna
There’s a touching article about Eclair’s here (I hope WSR doesn’t mind me including the link):
https://www.westsidespirit.com/news/local-news/secrets-of-the-cafe-eclair-BHNP1320180313180319981
I never knew their guestbook was so meaningful to WWII refugees/survivors.
I went there pretty often with my parents when I was a child.
I moved to West 83rd Street in 1978. The Erotic Bakery was down the street. My favorite salad place was The Front Porch on Broadway and 82nd. Loved The Museum Cafe, Tom’s Pizza on Columbus and 85th, Dobson’s, Ruskay’s, Teachers Too. Lots of good, cheap Chinese restaurants and old Jewish bakeries. How I loved and miss Cafe La Fortuna! Cafe Mozart was nice too. And Big Nick’s couldn’t be beat. I’m still here, and missing the old neighborhood.
Yes the “Front Porch” ! Different parenting in those days. I had many dinners at that bar with parent, attempting to do my homework. Also, “The library” restaurant.
Does anyone remember the name of the ballet school above the Red Apple supermarket on 82nd B’way where Barnes and Noble is now ?
I started shopping at Liana in ’83 when I moved to the UWS and I still show there now when ever I am back in the city. And now I take my daughter, who went to Columbia and stayed on the UWS, shopping there. Always had great buyers and wonderful clothes crossing all ages.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s both amazing and not amazing that it’s survived when so many others have folded, because the owners/staff are so lovely, smart, discerning, and helpful. The store was tiny in the beginning and then expanded.
This thread is the best fun! I moved to an apartment in the BagelNosh building – used to be a “Rxall” – in 1973…overlooking Needle Park. Across the street – a Pick & Pay, Famous Dairy on 72nd St, Copperhatch, and, of course, Pier 72 which closed not that long ago.
There are so many other places I can “see” but the names escape me. Does anyone remember the name of the furniture store that was in the Laytners space…or maybe that block? Was it West Town House ? They opened another branch when One Sherman Square opened on Amsterdam between 71st/70th. And, that cool kitchen goods store on the 2nd floor above the supermarket that became Webers. Copper pots and baskets hanging from the ceiling. My brain is exploding with memories and the effort to remember the names. Oh, and Ruelles was owned by Mom Ruth and her daughter Ellen who still lives in the hood. Anybody remember the old people dolls they had in the restaurant and sold? The were made from stockings.
Remember The Silver Palate? I was too young to appreciate it at the time, but I remember the tiny, packed shop. Sheila Lukins died just a few years ago.
I also remember Only Hearts back when they were in that tiny space where The Central Art Gallery is now. Almost everything in the shop was red and pink, and they sold disco-era items like body shimmer dust. I still like the store, which amazingly has survived, but it has a very different vibe now.
I loved Lonely Hearts. Shopped there whenever I could.
Does anyone remember eating chicken gai Yang and praline pie in Teachers 1,2 after being seated by Murray the maitre d who sometimes wore a green plaid kilt. One night Jerry Stiller looked across at my table and asked who I was I have a regal bearing which made him sure that I was an actress. I did take memoir writing classes at the 63rd street Y writers voice with editor Elaine Edelman. I played piano too in O’Neal’s until I was replaced by a Russian on the Mother’s Day Jerry Orbach came by with his wife. I’m a Bronx Italian who converted to upper west Side-ism thrilled by my Philip Roth sitings. Living in park west village located behind the now defunct Martells jazz club I’d look in the window to see jazz violinist Noel Pointer or singer Sissy Huston! I love a good memoir and will soak this one up as I have all the people, places and things UWS from my first job in the Low Library office of the president of Columbia university Andrew Cordero to my first piano gig in the Mozart cafe on West 94th.
love these rich and textured memories and so glad you will read my memoir!
By 1980 most apartment buildings on the UWS were co-op. Living in a classic 7 in the 90’s between Broadway and West End during the ‘60’s and ‘70’s, which went co-op in 1971, no one was living in an apartment in disrepair beforehand. The building was a neighborhood. Pomander Walk was across the street, which you would wonder how it got there. There were block parties. Money was raised to plant trees. The trees now take up the whole street. I wouldn’t call it shabby. It had grit. It wasn’t chic. There were the SRO’s, the cause of most of the problems, but they too became co-ops. I don’t think you will ever have a sense of a community in those pre-war buildings lining Riverside and West End again. Central Park West was always in its own stratosphere. Writing about the Upper West Side and no mention of Zabar’s or Barney Greengrass, doesn’t seem possible. I used to babysit for children in my building, which is something that doesn’t seem to exist anymore. There were two girls I frequently did for. I do think about them. Wonder how they are now.
Zabar’s and Barney Greengrass are both in my book, The Critic’s Daughter. 🙂
We lived uptown from you on 109th. My siblings went to St Hilda’s (I went there briefly), my best friend when I was little lived at 83rd and Riverside and I would go to All Angel’s church with her (my family did not go to church). They tore down All Angel’s to build a highrise long ago. What’s left is the pulpit, which the Met has in its American Wing. I also remember some cool store — was it called “Pandemonium”? It had stuff like glitter socks.
Glad to hear that. Didn’t really make sense for them not to be in your book. There are so many places. It’s thrilling when you see an old store sign exposed. Recently I saw the restaurant Teachers Too. There was another Teachers nearby. I loved The Front Porch. A couple of other children I babysat for, there was a music student, who studied at the Manhattan School of Music. She rented out the maid’s room. If she returned to the apartment about the same time as the mother, she would take me to the jazz bars on the UWS. There were quite a number. No one questioned your age. I think you know the girls I babysat for.
My Dad taught at MSM for years and was chairman of the Academic Dept for quite a while. We went to the Prep Division.
My friend went in the ‘70’s. She, unfortunately, had a brain tumor. She was able to finish her degree. You can sing before you can talk, but died a few years later. A book, “Seizure,”was written about her. Leonard Nimoy played her doctor in the movie. It was no ordinary brain tumor. She was like an older sister to me.